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. >>> general petraeus on capitol hill right now. the first time we've seen him since he resigned over an affair. will he put those questions to rest about benghazi? >>> president obama welcomes congressional leaders to the white house this morning. same people, same ideas on the table. is there a new willingness, though, to compromise? >>> a tragedy in texas. a freight train crashes into a parade float carrying veterans. the question is, what went wrong? >>> former director of the budget office, peter orszag will join us, jeff sessions is with us, actress jada pinkett smith will join us and kelly reilly from the movie "flight." "starting point" begins right now. welcome back, everybody. our team this morning, richard socarides is with us. economics editor at the economist. will cain is a columnist at the blaze.com. john berman is with us, helping us out with news. christine romans is sticking around, helping us out with business. fiscal cliff, 46 days and counting, we'll fall off the fiscal cliff. although some people have talked ab
. >>> general petraeus on capitol hill right now. the first time we've seen him since he resigned over an affair. will he put those questions to rest about benghazi? >>> president obama welcomes congressional leaders to the white house this morning. same people, same ideas on the table. is there a new willingness, though, to compromise? >>> a tragedy in texas. a freight train crashes into a parade float carrying veterans. the question is, what went wrong? >>>...
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you're absolutely right, tamron. they know they can't have the same sort of disastrous debacle happen that we saw during the debt ceiling fight of 2011. i think that they know they have to work together. president obama feeling emboldened about winning re-election. he's demanding that the bush era tax cuts expire for the wealthiest americans. that's something that republicans have typically opposed, but today house speaker john boehner seemed to suggest he was open to wiggle room on the issue of taxes or fresh revenues. on the other hand, democrats are willing to compromise on sacred cows, entitlement reform. let's hear more of what the congressional leaders had to say after the meeting. take a listen. >> we should have a goal in terms of how much deficit reduction. we should have a deadline before christmas. we should share some milestones of success so that confidence can build. >> we have the cornerstones of being able to work something out. we're both going to give up some of the things that we know are a problem
you're absolutely right, tamron. they know they can't have the same sort of disastrous debacle happen that we saw during the debt ceiling fight of 2011. i think that they know they have to work together. president obama feeling emboldened about winning re-election. he's demanding that the bush era tax cuts expire for the wealthiest americans. that's something that republicans have typically opposed, but today house speaker john boehner seemed to suggest he was open to wiggle room on the issue...
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coming right back with lou dobbs, is the stock market over because of president obama's reelection? dobbs is next ♪ buy 5-hour energy pink lemonade and ♪ ♪ you can help others along the way. ♪ ♪ a portion of every bottle that they sell goes to fight ♪ ♪ breast cancer and i think that's swell. ♪ ♪ the more you take, the more they'll pay, ♪ ♪ so make them write a big check today. ♪ ♪ and if you're feeling a little slow, ♪ ♪ then 5-hour energy will help you go. ♪ ♪ so buy a bottle of pink lemonade and ♪ ♪ you can help fight breast cancer today. ♪ >> bill: back of the book tonight, yesterday business leaders met with president obama. among those were the ceo of general electric, big obama guy, who as you may know, somehow figured out how ge could pay no income tax in 2010. nothing! lou dobbs. this is a sweet deal, isn't it? the president want to go raise taxes on you and me, particularly you and me. i think we were mentioned at the press conference yesterday. all right. and corporations in general, and then he invites immelt, who didn't pay any ta
coming right back with lou dobbs, is the stock market over because of president obama's reelection? dobbs is next ♪ buy 5-hour energy pink lemonade and ♪ ♪ you can help others along the way. ♪ ♪ a portion of every bottle that they sell goes to fight ♪ ♪ breast cancer and i think that's swell. ♪ ♪ the more you take, the more they'll pay, ♪ ♪ so make them write a big check today. ♪ ♪ and if you're feeling a little slow, ♪ ♪ then 5-hour energy will help you go. ♪...
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coming right back with lou dobbs, is the stock market over because of president obama's reelection? dobbs is next >> bill: back of the book tonight, yesterday business leaders met with president obama. among those were the ceo of general electric, big obama guy, who as you may know, somehow figured out how ge could pay no income tax in 2010. nothing! lou dobbs. this is a sweet deal, isn't it? the president want to go raise taxes on you and me, particularly you and me. i think we were mentioned at the press conference yesterday. all right. and corporations in general, and then he invites immelt, who didn't pay any taxes. >> it doesn't seem right, but i'll forego the thrill of being in the meeting with him. it's amazing. immelt gets a pass. they've had one meeting and a jobs council which explains our high unemployment rate. >> bill: we should explain to the audience which was a job council and immelt is the president of it and they had one meeting this year. in that meeting, i think the president was there for like ten seconds and left. >> no one can figure out what they do. and imme
coming right back with lou dobbs, is the stock market over because of president obama's reelection? dobbs is next >> bill: back of the book tonight, yesterday business leaders met with president obama. among those were the ceo of general electric, big obama guy, who as you may know, somehow figured out how ge could pay no income tax in 2010. nothing! lou dobbs. this is a sweet deal, isn't it? the president want to go raise taxes on you and me, particularly you and me. i think we were...
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coming right back with lou dobbs, is the stock market over because of president obama's reelection? dobbs is next so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and my daughter loves the santa. oh, ah sir. that is a customer. let's not tell mom. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. o >> bill: back of the book tonight, yesterday business leaders met with president obama. among those were the ceo of general electric, big obama guy, who as you may know, somehow figured out how ge could pay no income tax in 2010. nothing! lou dobbs. this is a sweet deal, isn't it? the president want to go raise taxes on you and me, particularly you and me. i think we were mentioned at the press conference yesterday. all right. and corporations in general, and then he invites immelt, who didn't pay any taxes. >> it doesn't seem right, but i'll fore
coming right back with lou dobbs, is the stock market over because of president obama's reelection? dobbs is next so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and my daughter loves the santa. oh, ah sir. that is a customer. let's not tell mom. [ male announcer ]...
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. >> i know, general petraeus is a wrecking crew right now. no one has done this much damage behind closed doors since ron jeremy and the question whether president obama was incompetent or hiding something and now we know, he's incompetent on hiding something. and we know that susan rice on talk shows was a big serving of baloney risotto. >> they protected the president by department the justice saying we didn't think it was important enough or a risk. >> they're covering it up because of the fact there was a the election. they didn't want a scandal break and they got a big ole bottle of liquid paper and, malfeasance. >> dana, grassley, what's next, why the names in those hearings. and this will go on for a while. investigations like this take a little bit of time. and clapper, dni and morelle the acting director say we don't know, we don't know. there's a simple way to find out how the talking points got changed. first reported, as i recall, by steven hayes in the weekly standard several weeks like four weeks after, when the end of september
. >> i know, general petraeus is a wrecking crew right now. no one has done this much damage behind closed doors since ron jeremy and the question whether president obama was incompetent or hiding something and now we know, he's incompetent on hiding something. and we know that susan rice on talk shows was a big serving of baloney risotto. >> they protected the president by department the justice saying we didn't think it was important enough or a risk. >> they're covering it...
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right? he believed some conservative thing that president obama never used the word terror when he described this attack. when, in fact, the president had. it led to that horrible fact checking moment, live fact checking in the debate. is john mccain, and these guys, dana warbaucher, gene schmidt, trying to make it into a political scandal, are they making the same mistake, they're pursuing a narrative circulating on the right but isn't based in fact? >> i'd add darrell issa on that. he held the hearings on benghazi a month before the election and bungled them. he released documents without even checking with anyone. and the bottom line here is there are legitimate questions about the benghazi attack and a lot of information we haven't gotten but that's all become secondary to the sort of political fight between the republicans in congress who want to assert that they still have the control of the foreign policy issue, and they want to assert that obama's weak on foreign policy though the el
right? he believed some conservative thing that president obama never used the word terror when he described this attack. when, in fact, the president had. it led to that horrible fact checking moment, live fact checking in the debate. is john mccain, and these guys, dana warbaucher, gene schmidt, trying to make it into a political scandal, are they making the same mistake, they're pursuing a narrative circulating on the right but isn't based in fact? >> i'd add darrell issa on that. he...
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expressed his appreciation once again for obama's unequivocal, clear-sighted support for israel's right to defend itself. >> netanyahu is a very sharp character i can say from the experience i had when president clinton was not particularly a supporter of prime minister netanyahu there were times when that difference of political opinion came out, but when the chips are down -- >> a diplomatic way of putting it, jay. >> but when the trips were down, each side knows its operating for their country and not their party. look, it's going to have some discomfort. there will be some cracks made on the side and in the back rooms as these negotiations and discussions are going on. but right now, america is pursuing american foreign policy and israel pursuing its and these two individuals will try to hold their tongues. >> it certainly is a situation that is fluid and we will continue to monitor. always great to have you. thank you so much to jamie rubin. >> as the cia launches its own probe into its intelligence officer, eric holder explains why the justice department waited to inform the white
expressed his appreciation once again for obama's unequivocal, clear-sighted support for israel's right to defend itself. >> netanyahu is a very sharp character i can say from the experience i had when president clinton was not particularly a supporter of prime minister netanyahu there were times when that difference of political opinion came out, but when the chips are down -- >> a diplomatic way of putting it, jay. >> but when the trips were down, each side knows its...
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there's chuck schumer right behind him. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ woman ] my washer had a foul odor that made the whole room stink. [ woman #2 ] even my laundry started to get a funny smell. [ female announcer ] just three uses of tide washing machine cleaner will help remove odor-causing residues and leave your high-efficiency washer clean and fresh. clean laundry starts with a clean washer. >>> mitt romney failed to carry his home state of massachusetts and the romney/ryan ticket didn't win paul ryan's home state of wisconsin either. 20 presidential tickets in american history have lost both their home states, although romney and ryan are the first to reach that level of futility since 1972 when george mcgovern and sargent shriver didn't carry either of their home states, south dakota or maryland. we'll be right back. >>> i'm very proud of you, new york. you guys are tough. you bounce back. just as america always bounces back. the same is going to be true this time out. >> we're back. that was presiden
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"hardball" starts right now. >>> romney says obama bought the election. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. you'd have thought that mitt romney would have stopped this crap. during the campaign he was out there selling it, that president obama was buying black votes by dumping the work requirement for welfare. remember that little sugar plum? it had it all, the accusation that minority voters could be scarfed up with a little chump change. throw them a little something and the votes would come pouring back. here he was yesterday, romney, schmoozing with his donor base about how the whole thing went wrong. it seems the president did a little wholesale purchasing, he said. he bought the minority with health care and bought the students with free student loans. great work there, mitt. you're at it again with your double barrels. one, claims that aren't true, and, two, that old dog whistle of yours. fact. people in the income bracket you mentioned have to kick in to get health care. fa
"hardball" starts right now. >>> romney says obama bought the election. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. you'd have thought that mitt romney would have stopped this crap. during the campaign he was out there selling it, that president obama was buying black votes by dumping the work requirement for welfare. remember that little sugar plum? it had it all, the accusation that...
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complex, barack obama's team is organizing. and they're targeting. and instead of talking about conspiracies in the media, josh, they're targeting voters in ohio. instead of talking about how the polls are skewed, they're making phone calls. while we are basically in this cocoon where our websites, our tv shows and our radio shows, talk show hosts are telling us, everything's okay. you're going to win. and anybody that says otherwise is just a part of the left-wing socialist conspiracy. >> i think that's why there was that thunderstruck disbelief among conservatives and apparently among romney himself the day after the election that they had actually lost. they didn't belief it would happen. and i think if romney had had a chance to break free of that entertainment complex, hadn't felt obligated to consistently kind of pander to it in his ineffective style, it would be more like the romney in the first debate who had that broader appeal that you're talking about, he might have been more successful. >> i'm going to save the supe
complex, barack obama's team is organizing. and they're targeting. and instead of talking about conspiracies in the media, josh, they're targeting voters in ohio. instead of talking about how the polls are skewed, they're making phone calls. while we are basically in this cocoon where our websites, our tv shows and our radio shows, talk show hosts are telling us, everything's okay. you're going to win. and anybody that says otherwise is just a part of the left-wing socialist conspiracy....
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she said president obama told benjamin netanyahu that he understands israel's right to self-defense in light of countless rocket attacks on israeli civilians being launched from gaza. the president urged that prime minister netanyahu make every effort to avoid civilian casualties. do we think this administration has were leverage in making sure that happens? >> i mean, the israelis really feel that they have gone too far. they simply could not hold back from defending themselves because of the hundreds of attacks. trying to stop that, trying to tell israel not to defend itself is really impossible, but that said, the danger of this, of course escalation and all-out war is really very high. that's why this administration is trying to, you know, urge both sides to stop. it's obviously not being very successful. >> you know, tony blair has put a lot of political capital in this trying to come up with a peace agreement for the middle east. he spoke about this recently, what he sees is happening. i want to play a little bit for you. >> the single thing that's most important straight away is
she said president obama told benjamin netanyahu that he understands israel's right to self-defense in light of countless rocket attacks on israeli civilians being launched from gaza. the president urged that prime minister netanyahu make every effort to avoid civilian casualties. do we think this administration has were leverage in making sure that happens? >> i mean, the israelis really feel that they have gone too far. they simply could not hold back from defending themselves because...
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you heard that republican congressman call president obama a liar. is he right? >> no. and that is absolutely outrageous, carol. and i think that is what is leading to this kind of protracted and ugly fight, which is exactly what the american people did not want coming out of this election. they wanted their leaders to work together and on something as important as benghazi, i think that every party leader needs to understand that they should dial it down a notch and really feg out what happened here. we're talking about the deaths of four americans. we're talking about an ten intelligence community that is under fire. that should be important to both parties. and ei agree with ron, we need o figure out what the cia knew, what general petraeus knew. it also goes to susan rice, ambassador rice and what she said, which came directly from the talking points that the intelligence community put together for her. so we all need to step back and really work together to figure out what happened here. >> the strange thing, if general petraeus is to blame when he was cia director
you heard that republican congressman call president obama a liar. is he right? >> no. and that is absolutely outrageous, carol. and i think that is what is leading to this kind of protracted and ugly fight, which is exactly what the american people did not want coming out of this election. they wanted their leaders to work together and on something as important as benghazi, i think that every party leader needs to understand that they should dial it down a notch and really feg out what...
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. >> all right, ben. in jerusalem this morning. thanks. >>> coming up later, soledad will be speaking to israel's deputy foreign minister. that's in our 7:00 hour. >>> here at home, president obama will have the four top leaders of congress over to the white house today to begin talks on avoiding the fiscal cliff, which could plunge the u.s. economy back into a recession. both side say there is room for compromise, but at the same time, it appears democrats and republicans may have dug in on their long-held positions concerning tax hikes and spending cuts. jill doherty is in our washington bureau. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> jill, both sides have said they are optimistic about a deal here. they're also not budging on some key issues. >> yeah, i mean, there is some room around the edges, but essentially, and this is the the opening gambit, of course. they're both talking about taxes. the president saying -- and revenue. the president saying that he wants more revenue from the wealthiest americans and the republicans and
. >> all right, ben. in jerusalem this morning. thanks. >>> coming up later, soledad will be speaking to israel's deputy foreign minister. that's in our 7:00 hour. >>> here at home, president obama will have the four top leaders of congress over to the white house today to begin talks on avoiding the fiscal cliff, which could plunge the u.s. economy back into a recession. both side say there is room for compromise, but at the same time, it appears democrats and...